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Podcast | 17 October 2025

The Women Leaders podcast: Mired in the Middle East

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As most international mediators know, Israel-Palestine is a conflict to avoid. Intellectually, it should be solvable, but in reality, it is intractable.

In this episode, we bring together a Palestinian and an Israeli — Dr Tahani Mustafa of the ECFR and Dr Miriam Rosman of the Dvorah Forum — hoping to move beyond the intractable, due to the Gaza ceasefire. It has heralded much hope for a better future, alongside deep confusion as to what such a future can and should hold. However, the discussion ultimately reflected the absence of trust, empathy, or understanding on both sides.

This is an important and passionate episode that highlights the significant challenges in even establishing a common starting point for dialogue, let alone negotiation. From history to reality and from humanity to sympathy, there is a long way to go in creating the conditions for negotiation between Israelis and Palestinians.

This episode was recorded on 16 October 2025.

Chapters

  • Diverging perspectives on the ceasefire
  • Is there any path forward?
  • Building trust over traumas

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Image credit: Florence Ferrando

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